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Every time
that I have an interview on the phone I get nervous and I suppose this
is natural. I am anxious if my voice will be clear, if my questions will
be understandable, if the connection will be clear and stuff like that.
This time I was a bit more nervous than usual because I caught a very bad
cold and I am coughing all the time, so I was afraid that this would be
a “joke” and not an interview. However, I had before me Jari Kuusisto,
a very pleasant and patient person, who made this interview to be a real
pleasure. So, after the first seconds I was relieved from all the anxiety
and we had a friendly conversation.
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1.FIRST OF ALL CONGRATULATIONS FOR
“THE MORE YOU SUFFER”. IT’S A GREAT ALBUM!
2.SO, WHAT HAPPENED TO CARNAL
FORGE FROM “PLEASE…DIE!” TILL NOW? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING MEMORABLE TO MENTION?
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We pretty much took it easy between
these 2 albums. We did a European tour with Mortician and then we did some
smaller gigs in Sweden and also some gigs outside Sweden. This is pretty
much actually. We took it easy and we were writing some songs for the new
album.
3.YOU HAVE A NEW ALBUM OUT SO
COULD YOU PLEASE TELL US SOME THINGS ABOUT IT?
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Ok! Well, it’s recorded in the same
studio where we record all the Carnal Forge albums in Studio Underground
located here in Sweden and it took us about 5 weeks total to record, mix
it and do all the funny things we have to do and as always we produced
our album ourselves. We don’t go with any producers or stuff like that.
We have a strong mind on how we want Carnal Forge to sound and it would
feel wrong to have someone else telling us how to sound. This would not
be Carnal Forge anymore, so it took us 5 weeks of hard work to finish the
product and that’s pretty much it…
4.MOST OF THE BANDS NOWADAYS
TRY TO RECORD THEIR ALBUMS IN VERY FAMOUS STUDIOS, BECAUSE THEY THINK THIS
WAY THEY WILL HELP THEIR ALBUM GET NOTICED MORE THAN IT WOULD BE IF IT
WAS RECORDED IN A NOT SO FAMOUS STUDIO. HOWEVER, YOU HAVEN’T DONE ANYTHING
LIKE THAT AND ON THE CONTRARY YOU PRODUCED THE ALBUM YOURSELVES. WHY?
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Well, I don’t really know…We found
this studio that we use, studio Underground and it’s great for us and we
don’t see a reason to change studio or to get a name on the album that
is the recorder of the studio as maybe for The Haunted or stuff like that.
It wouldn’t make sense to us. Some bands do that and I think when you get
a little bit older you want to find the studio that suits you best and
don’t care so much who is owning the studio or what’s the name of the studio.
I think it’s the same thing with producers. I think we could have someone
else to produce Carnal Forge, but at the same time it wouldn’t feel Carnal
Forge and from my point of view you have something missing in your band
if you have to bring someone in to produce you and get you sound better.
I think it’s better to stop and start thinking why you need a producer
and if there’s something wrong with your songs, but at the same time there
are bands that use big names, the put a name on the album and then people
see it and say “Ohh it’s him on the album I have to listen to it!”, because
it must be good if you like the things he has done this far and I think
that’s probably the case. I don’t think there’s a chance for Carnal Forge
to do that and we have discussed it sometimes but we have agreed not to
bring anyone in without denying that in the future we might bring someone
to mix the album. Example, you can record it in one studio and mix it in
another and that would also be a case cause you might get a better sound
than in the other studio, but as it looks like right now I don’t see any
reason for doing this.
-DON’T YOU THINK THAT IF YOU
HAD A FAMOUS PRODUCER YOU WOULD HAVE BECOME MORE FAMOUS EASIER?
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First of all for Carnal Forge is to
e satisfied ourselves with what we do that we have fun when we do it then
if everybody else likes what we are doing it’s a huge bonus for us. We
are not in the music business to earn money or to sell a lot of records.
Of course it’s good for us and it would be fun if we sold tones and tones
of records but at the same time if you lose the feeling of fun when you
do this then it’s no point of going on. You have to money or to sell records,
you have to do good records that you will also like yourself cause if you
go on tour and play songs that you don’t like and you’d do it to sell some
more records, then it’s weird for me…
5.LISTENING TO YOUR SONGS I’VE
NOTICED THE USE OF MANY CLASSIC HEAVY METAL RIFFS AND THERE ARE ALSO SOME
GUITAR RIFFS THAT I FEEL HAVE A STRONG INFLUENCE FROM THE EAST AND THEY
GIVE A SLIGHT ORIENTAL DIRECTION TO SOME OF YOUR SONGS. DO YOU AGREE?
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Yeah I can agree with that! We kind
of have influence from that kind of music. It’s nothing that we planned.
I can not write a song and say “now I’m gonna do a song and is going to
sound like this”. I start doing the song, I think of the first riff and
then when the song is done I can say it’s a little bit like that or a little
bit like that. We only do songs by saying “Ok this is a cool riff”. How
it sounds? We really don’t mind as long as we like it.
6.WHICH ARE THE SIMILARITIES
AND DIFFERENCES BETWEEN “THE MORE YOU SUFFER” AND “PLEASE…DIE!”? IS THERE
ANYTHING YOU’D LIKE TO CHANGE IN THE FINAL RESULT?
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No not really! There is nothing I’d
like to change in the final result. The thing that is a little different
from “Please…die!” is that we added a little more melodies in the new album
without being a melodic band. The vocals are also changed a little bit…
-THEY ARE MORE VARIED…
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Yeah! He tries out more things. He
is not only singing in one pitch throughout the whole record. He is doing
some clean vocals in some parts and that he does these high pitch and low
pitch and in between, so I think it’s much easier to listen to the new
album than it was for “Please…Die!” and also one thing that still is the
same I think is that it still sounds like Carnal Forge and it still is
high tempo and the major difference is that we tried out to have a really
heavy song for the album that we have never tried before. I am talking
for “Deep Rivers Of Blood” and we have discussed before to do a really
heavy song and as I told you earlier I can not decide how the songs will
come out and for this record we finally have a really heavy song. So, there’s
a reason for having it! We tried it before, but it felt wrong to say “No
we are going to do a heavy song. It doesn’t matter if we have the riffs
or not we are going to do it!”. This is not right. It has to come out naturally
and it took for us 4 albums to do so…hahaha
7.THE SLAYER AND AT THE GATES
INFLUENCES ARE OBVIOUS. BESIDES THESE BANDS, WHICH ELSE CAN BE FOUND AMONG
YOUR INFLUENCES? NAME SOME OF YOUR MOST BELOVED ALBUMS.
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As you said Slayer’s “Reign In Blood”
and “Seasons In The Abyss” I think are masterpieces and also At The Gates’
“Slaughter Of The Soul”, Testament the earlier album and “The Gathering”
is amazing, Kreator “Extreme Aggression”. Do you pretty much get the picture
of what I listen to?
-WELL I ALREADY HAD THIS PICTURE!
8.MOST OF YOUR TRACK TITLES
DEAL WITH DEATH AND BLOOD. WHY? WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US WHAT ARE “THE
MORE YOU SUFFER” LYRICS TALKING ABOUT?
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“The More You Suffer” lyrics deal with
anger, torture, anguish, a lot of things that are not that fun to talk
about or people tend not to talk about and Jonas is writing all the lyrics
and he is writing lyrics when he is in a really bad mood and when things
are not going as he wants to in his life, maybe he doesn’t have money or
didn’t get the job he wanted, when things don’t work out well in ordinary
life and he gets pissed off. Instead of screaming, shouting and banging
his head to the wall he sits down and write it down on paper. That’s why
our lyrics are like this. One more reason for it is that the music is so
aggressive we want the lyrics also to fit to the music and also to cover
art. So, everything’s like a package, but it can take a very long time
for Jonas to write lyrics because he is not always feeling bad (hahaha)
but when he does then he writes the lyrics and that’s why they tend to
be a lot about suicide and violence and anger and stuff like that…
-SO WHAT DOES H.B.F. SUICIDE
TALK ABOUT? DOES IT STAND FOR HATE, BLOOD AND FIRE?
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It stands for Hell, Blood and Fire.
It basically talks about when everything goes wrong and the ignorance of
today’s people…oohhh this is hard for me to explain…It would be easier
for me to explain it in Swedish…hahahaha
-HAHAHA…I’M SORRY BUT I DON’T
SPEAK SWEDISH…!
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It’s basically about a guy who is tired
of living. He stops thinking and he is denying his life and all the things
and he wishes he was dead…You get the picture…
-WHAT DO YOU THINK OF SUICIDES
YOURSELF?
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It’s hard to say because these things…People
talk about it and it happens all the time and it’s really hard to say what
you really think about it because somebody could take it as the easy way
out, of not taking care of the problems he has and running away and at
the same time…
-NEEDS GUTS TO DO IT…THERE ARE
PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT SUICIDES ARE FOR THE WEAK BUT ON THE OTHER HAND IT
NEEDS GUTS TO DO IT…
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Yeah! I would totally I agree with
that! In the same time you can be really mentally ill and that’s why you
have all these thoughts. You can be really schizophrenic and have people
in your head telling you to do it and stuff like that. But it’s hard to
say how I see the suicides, because there are so many things you can say
about it. It’s not just the easy way out or it takes guts to do it…and
it TAKES guts to do it, but it’s not just that.
9.CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE ARTWORK
AND ITS CONNECTION WITH THE ALBUM TITLE?
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Yeah! The front artwork shows a guy
who is about to drown in a bath tab and it’s Lars our bassist who came
out with this idea and took the pictures and the rest. What we want to
say with the title is that when you are really twisted in your head you
can gain really something through the suffering. Do you understand?
-YES I DO!
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Ok! So, at the same time we wanted
to have a title that we could basically out whatever we wanted…the more
you suffer the more you gain…the more you suffer…you can go on and go on
and get stuff of what you can have with the more you suffer. Basically
it’s about gaining something from another suffering.
10.WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE
IN YOUR SONGS THAT CAN MAKE YOUR SOUND RECOGNIZABLE FROM THE REST OF THE
BANDS OF THIS GENRE?
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I could definitely say that we are
going to get a pretty unique sound for Carnal Forge because other bands
tend to do different records from time to time. They start out with a really
flashy record and then they go a little bit more melodic and they go again
a little bit more like death metal…We just do what feels right and I think
that people can recognize immediately that this is a Carnal Forge song
and that’s because you always find those elements that we always have used
and we don’t do it just because we wanted to sound like Carnal Forge. We
do it because we like it and I think that people can hear this on our records,
that we are really liking what we are doing, because we are not just putting
some fresh metal things but some hardcore, and everything that we like
we put it in the music and I think that is going to pay off later on…
-WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO A FAN
TO CONVINCE HIM BUY YOUR RELEASE INSTEAD OF SOMETHING ELSE?
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Hahaha…It’s always hard for me to convince
somebody or to tell them that this album is good. I think this is 100%
quality metal and you have all the good parts of thrash, death metal, hardcore
in it. I would definitely buy this record if I wasn’t in the band! Hahahaha…
11.LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING
WEIRD NOW…THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT AN ALBUM CAN’T BE ONLY FAST
OR MID TEMPO BUT SHOULD HAVE VARYING SPEEDS IN ORDER TO KEEP US INTERESTED
AND NOT GET BORED. HOWEVER, ALL YOUR SONGS ARE ULTRA FAST. HAVE YOU EVER
THOUGHT OF OR IS THERE A CHANCE TO ADD SOME MORE MELODY IN YOUR COMPOSITIONS?
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As I told you earlier I can not say
how our next album is going to sound. What I can say is that for sure Carnal
Forge is not going to play nu-metal or add lots of samples or stuff like
that. We like to be fast and basically it’s about how you put the songs
together. It doesn’t matter if you have 10 songs in a row that are really
fast. It does matter if the songs are similar to each other. Then you can’t
distinguish them. For our point of view we work hard for each and every
song to give it a strong identity and don’t’ mix it and blend it together.
How next album is going to sound? It’s impossible for me to say, if it’s
going to be more melodic – I don’t think so- but at the same time
it could, so it’s really hard to say but we are still going to be very
aggressive and we are going to play fast songs still and all the reason
behind it is because this is Carnal Forge. That’s what we like to listen
to and that’s we do the music. First of all for ourselves, so that’s why
it is like that…
12.DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS FOR
TOURING?
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Yeah! We are starting out in April
for a full U.S. tour. The headlining act for that tour will be Halford
and there will also be Immortal, Testament, Dark Tranquillity, Symphony
X. So it’s a bunch of really really bands. It’s going to be really nice
and that tour is going to last for 6 weeks, so we are coming home in the
middle of June again and after that we’re going take it easy and stay here
and work for 1-2 months and after that we are doing a full European tour
with Exodus, Testament, Behemoth, Agent Steel, some more great bands. That’s
also going to be a really nice tour…
-IS THERE A CHANCE TO COME TO
GREECE?
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I don’t know yet, because I don’t have
the dates yet for that tour but that tour is going to start at the beginning
of October this year and we’ll see how many countries we will visit but
we will go definitely to many countries in Europe. After that the Japanese
label told us that they’d like us to go and do one more tour this year,
because we were already in Japan and did a headlining tour earlier this
year and they told us that they want us to go one more time and that is
going to be after the European tour so most of this year is going to be
touring…
13.IF YOUR MUSIC WAS AN EMOTION,
WHAT WOULD IT BE?
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Fury I’d say!Hahahaha
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It’s hard to explain it in some other
way because when we perform for example live…I can listen to our songs
at home and think this is cool…but when we come out and play it live it’s
100% adrenaline, we look like we are going to kill somebody on stage. We
look like mad but that’s it we let the adrenaline get out of us. I’d say
the feeling you get is fury!
-IF IT WAS A PAINTING WHAT WOULD
IT SHOW?
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Chaos maybe! Organized chaos! Hahahaha!
14.IF YOU COULD TRAVEL IN TIME,
WHICH HISTORICAL PERIOD WOULD YOU LIKE TO VISIT AND WHAT WOULD YOU MISS
THE MOST FROM OUR TIMES?
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Ohhh that was a hot one! Hahahaha!
I would like to travel back in the medieval times and what I’d miss the
most…my guitar! Hahahaha
-YEAH! THERE WAS NO ELECTRICITY
BACK THEN…
15.THERE IS A BLOODY AND CATASTROPHIC
WAR GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN IRAQ. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT?
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Ohh…I am not so much interested in
politics and I think this was is all about politics…
-POLITICS AND MONEY…
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Yeah! Saddam Hussein has his power
and he is one of the worst dictators ever I think and at the same time
I don’t think it’s right from the Bush side to be like world police and
go there and drop bombs and stuff like that…
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-WHO GIVES YOU THE RIGHT?
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I don’t think it’s right, I think it’s
stupid actually. I think it’s better way to try and solve it than go and
make a war because even if they manage to get Saddam Hussein off his thrown
still you have killed a lot of innocent people so that’s why I think it’s
totally wrong to do it the way they do it now.
16.YOU ARE GRANTED ONE WISH.
WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE IN THE WORLD?
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Ohh…Hahahaha…That nobody have to be
poor!
17.WHICH IS THE WEIRDEST QUESTION
SOMEONE’S EVER ASKED YOU?
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Hhmm…It’s the Japanese custom that
asked me the weirdest question…They were pointing at a paper that had a
drawing on it of marijuana and they asked me “do you have?”, like I would
tell you I have! Hahahahaha
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That is the weirdest question I ever
got! Hahahahaha
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-SO…DO YOU HAVE??????
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No!!!!Hahahahhahahahaha I don’t have!!!!!!
18.IS THERE A QUESTION YOU WOULD
LIKE TO BE ASKED AND NO ONE’S EVER ASKED YOU?
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Hmm…No!!!Not really!!!! Hahahhahahahaaha!
19.IF YOU HAD THE CHANCE TO
MEET THE CREATURE THAT CREATED THE UNIVERSE, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK
HIM?
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What he was thinking of! Hahaha
20.THANK YOU! THESE LAST LINES
ARE YOURS. LEAVE YOUR MESSAGE…
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Definitely check out the new album
“The More You Suffer”. It’s a great album I think and it’s 100% metal and
also if we come somewhere near you in the European tour that is going to
start in October, because I can promise you 100% a furious adrenaline kick!
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-THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
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Thank you! Take care! Bye bye!
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-BYE!
Christine
Parastatidou