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Holding the rod

Quid Blankley and Bernie Haines both think that the angle of the rod when playing a fish should be at eleven o'clock and changed only when the fish makes a sudden move. The idea is to put the same amount of pressure on a fish no matter what the circumstance. This way you wear the fish out quickly, but you don't move the hook (changing the rod angle does this) and widen the hole in it's mouth risking losing the fish. If you need to put more pressure on because of a snag, etc., do it, but this is an unusual situation where you have nothing to lose.

Netting a fish

Many fish are lost at the last second. If you don't have an experienced person netting the carp, you will lose it. The secret is to place the net in the water and move the fish to the net. Don't chase the fish as it will lunge and break the line. You are better off netting it yourself if no experienced person is available. Beware of someone who "knows how" unless you have seen them work.

Chumming

If you are in a fishery such as the Chicago river where the fish are big and numerous, it is almost impossible to overfeed the fish. Carp are eating machines and a twenty pound fish has to eat quite a lot to keep moving. You can overfeed in small still waters, but most of us don't use enough feed to keep the fish interested. CBA put in nearly 800 pounds of chum over a two week period. The fish really turned on with this strategy.

Rod Pod

Chris Labucki and Peter Dawson, one cheap and the other a student, don't want to spend money on rod pods (Peter won one at the Classic, pure thoughts do pay off occasionally) so they build one out of plastic milk cartons. Peter found all of his carp equipment at Wal-Mart including large plastic storage boxes. He cut a "V" in two sides of the box and was able to put a rod in it. He weighted the box with rocks and had a stable support for his set-up. Chris has been doing the same for years. I should point out, however, that the rod pods are much better overall as they are purpose built and much less cumbersome.

Hair Rigging Bread

Bread is an instant bait. Jack Rowe has used it since childhood ( a long time ago) and has come up with a way to use bread on a hair rig. He takes two centimeter square (Jack is metric) pieces of velcro (the hook side) and glues them together with the hooks on the outside. He them puts them on the hair with a boilie stop and squeezes bread on the velcro.. The bread will stay on for quit a while, especially if you don't move the bait. He caught a lot of fish that way in Chicago.

Leader Material

The new braided lines are not bad for main line (Quid Blankley), but the best use for them seems to be as a leader. Most of the top carpers were using Cabela's, Gorilla Braid, or imported braids for leaders because they are soft, tough, and can be used as an integral hair. The new fusion lines seem to have some of the same properties, although they tend to be stiff, a quality which may be needed at times. Mono works at times, so the wisdom is to try them all.

Patrick Kelly

(Baltimore, MD)
Do not become pigeonholed and locked into one bait and presentation. Be prepared with a number of different hookbaits be they sweetcorn, maize, chickpeas, boilies, or dough baits based on carp preferences and circumstances at the time or venue. Do not shun experimentation.
Be flexible, keep an open mind. Make every approach to the water be like the first and try to put aside any preconcieved notions or expectations of the swim or venue or how the carp will behave or what baits they will go for.
If fishing more than one rod bait them diffenently and at different depth levels; then put both rods at the same distance/depth if you've determined that's where the fish are located.
Wherever possible, fish for carp on a variety of waters ie. lakes ponds with stillwater; rivers with some flow; below dam tailraces with REAL flow; snaggy waters; weedy waters; tidal and brackish waters. There can be bait and presentation differences (as well as differences in the carp themselves) at each of these and being successful at them will lead to a well rounded carp fishing education.
Realize that catching whopper carp is fishing nirvana, but becoming obsessed with whether or not you catch them each time out will lead to disappointment and cloud your fishing judgement. Enjoy the carp you catch and when you get a 20 or 30...fantastic.
Don't gauge your carp fishing success based on how other anglers do at different venues and swims. Now if they are right next to you, that may be another story..........

Pat Kerwin

(CAG Chair MD, DC, NJ)
1. If you're dropping a lot of fish during the fight, try making the hookbait a little more bouyant by adding a little rig foam or part of a pop-up boilie.
2. When using a spod, once you hit the spot you want try putting the line in the line clip, you should then be able to hit the same spot everytime.
3. Try fishing a piece of maize with a large boilie, that way you get the attractiveness of maize, with the 'gobstopper' effect of the boilie.
4. If you are fishing tidal waters, always plan your trip so it coincides with at least one turn of the tide.
5. If fishing in current, always take into account the current when throwing out groundbait.
6. If you are getting alot of missed takes, try backleading to hide the line.
7. PVA stringers of boilies will help keep your rig from tangling.
8. If you are getting alot of missed runs and rod bounces, try switching the rig, from braid to mono or from mono to braid.
9. If you are using groundbait and having trouble with it holding together, add bran flakes.
10. I fishing an area with lots of snags, fish with your rod tips well above your head.
11. In cold water conditions, the first couple of hours after darkness is often the best time to catch.
12. If you are spodding, after casting out the spod, leave it there and then cast your hookbait right next to the spod.
13. Try putting braid on a spare rod and use it for feature finding, simply tie a lead to the end and drag it around, you will be able to 'feel' the bottom much better than with mono.
14. During hot weather, carp will often be in very shallow water in the early morning.
15. Always wear polarized sunglasses.

Tips from the NACA



Andy Longfellow

(Andy lives in London, but travels to the Potomac river whenever he really wants to catch carp. He works for British Airlines)
Attention to detail.....not happy with that knot?...tie it again no matter how keen you are to cast out.
Before every recast examine your hookpoint...change it if it's blunted or bent over!
Consider trying the European style of catching carp, not jus using the equipment, but fishing for 24 or 48 hours straight. In North American waters this may men catching up to 100 fish if the conditions are right. In addition, you will learn a lot about the fish in a short time.
Use the No-Knot Knot. (see illustration, MJK)

Brian Carpaholic" Nordberg

(Brian caught the largest fish in the Chicago Carp Classic this year and is the 1998 Chicago Carp King)
When using foam to pop-up maize, use the foam to sponge up your favorite flavor.
If you don't have a weigh sling, weigh the fish in the net not by the gill
Cheap bobbins can be made from whiffle-type golf balls and bread twist ties. The neon colored ones are especially visible
A cheap line clip can be made by simply wrapping a rubber band around the handle in front of the reel and tucking a loop of the mainline under the band. This way you can fish with your bail open and not lose your rod.
If someone else is catching and you are not, copy, copy, copy
If you want to use braid or a fused superline, try to match your mono's diameter not its breaking strength. The thinner the line the smaller a nick required to break it.
Molasses makes a great sweetner/attractor with maize.
Carpaholics Easy to Use Rubber Band Line Clip:
Another tactic is to put a rubber band around the rod handle just under in front of the reel. Cast out, reel the slack out, trap a loop of the line between the rubber band and the handle, then flick open the bail (or press the button). The rubber band will hold the line tight enough to allow a light bobbin type indicator ( a whiffle type golf ball with a bread twist tie as a hanger works). The take will register as the ball rises or falls depending on which way the fish moves. But once the fish takes all the slack, the line pulls free from the rubber band and flows off the open spool. Just engage the bail and you're in business.
Carpaholics Easy to make Rod Carrier:
The Sewer Pipe Rod Carrier is basically just a 4 inch diameter sewer pipe with a cap cemented on one end. The other end is a female-pipe to female-threaded adapter. A male threaded cap is screwed into the female fitting to close the tube. By drilling through the cap on each side while it is fully tightened in place, you can make a hole just big enough to pass the cable type bicycle lock. The holes should pass through the mated threads of the cap and adapter. To lock the cap, thread the cable into one hole and out the other, then lock the end of the bike cable into the combination lock. A handle can be riveted about midway along the pipe to complete the rod carrier. It's cheap, it's heavy, but it will take a beating. I strongly recommend wrapping the rods and packing the tube with newspaper etc. to avoid damage to the rods inside.

David Hamilton

(Davey came to my (MJK) home town and caught hundreds of carp this last September)
An easy way to make a hair rig without having to tie that annoying little loop is to use the "no-knot knot". Instead of making a loop in the hair part, use twice the length and double it back along the shaft of the hook. Once you do this, wind the line on as usual over the doubled line and you will form a large loop which is also your hair. Hook your baiting needle on the doubled line and start baiting up. This won't have the flexibility of a single line bait, but you won't have that annoying knot to have to push the bait over. If you use light braid, the flexibility will be there.

David Palmer

(Bait Shuttle)
When using the Bait Shuttle, use the modern braided lines to control it. This way you have instant response since the modern braids don't stretch and you will be able to chum up out to 200 meters if conditions are right.

Iain Sorrell

([email protected])
Fish where the fish are - check the movements and feeding patterns of fish to make your fishing time more productive.
Fish into the wind - whenever you are trying a new spot try fishing into the prevailing wind. Carp will generally feed along the bank that the wind is blowing on to.
When establishing a chumming pattern on a new water give it time to work before fishing it. Often carp are scared from a potentially productive swim before they have established a feeding routine.
Fish at least one of your baits on the edge of the chummed area - often the bigger fish stay on the perimeter.

Jack Blackford

(East Coast Editor of NACA, Potomac Chairman for CAG)
Chum, chum, chum! When its warm think lots of chum, buckets full, try to dump a 5 gallon bucket of maize in the night before you fish, more if they will eat it, in the morning if its all gone dump in more. If you can chum for several days before fishing, do it. Keep the chum going in by boat, spod and slingshot, sometimes the noise even calls in the carp to get them biting again. Get your gear set up before you cast out, you won't have time once the bite starts!

Jim Murray

(Scottish CAG Member)
If you find your Optonics tend to loosen on their mounts, replace the plastic screw with a 5/16" x 1" hex-headed steel one with wing-nut to fit. Drill out the threads of the original plastic nut and it makes a perfect-sized spacer to stop the wing nut from fouling the indicator body.

Michael Koester

When the summer the sun is high, a good sun protection cream is a good choice to keep your skin form being damaged by ultra-violet and infrared rays. The protection is good for you but bad for fishing if you touch a bait or chum for the carp. Please wash your hands after putting on any cream. Take some sand or mud and wash your hands very carefully. If you touch your face, remember that there is sun lotion still on your face and you have to wash your hands again. If you think about what you are doing you will catch more fish!!!

Nigel Griffin

(Nigel owns Eurotackle and can be reached at [email protected])
Buy your Carp tackle from EUROTACKLE!!!
Fish one rod close to shore if the water is deep enough, carp will patrol the edges searching for food.
Use food coloring to dye sweetcorn red, this may improve your catch rate.
Use a weigh sling to get an accurate reading from your scale, the fish will stay calm while in the sling.
Try chumming 2 areas & set one line on each.
Give Boilies a try if you are looking for bigger carp!
Chum an area for several days if possible or to keep the bait going in, fish the same spot a few times.
When winter comes & fishing slows, now is the time to be looking for new spots to try next spring.
If you are having trouble with dropped runs, adjust these things one at a time - Length of hair, Length of leader, Size of hook, Size of sinker
Go to CAG fish-ins if you wish to learn a lot in a hurry!

Fritz Vatter

(Fritz is the Canadian Chairman for CAG)
When we experience these "twitch" bites we try a couple of basic things to help in getting hookups. If possible fish a float, this technique offers much less resistance to a neutral/negative carp. When using a fixed lead (bolt rig) shorten the hooklength to 4-6 inches, keep the hair short (bait just touching the bend in the hook), use smaller baits on the hair i.e. 3 grains of sweetcorn/maize which have been highly flavored.
Make up some ground bait (wetter than usual, paste like) and mold it around the sinker. not a huge ball just enough to cover the sinker and aid in attraction. This sometimes "turns them on" and results in a more aggressive take.
Try a quiver tip when using a running lead, this again gives less resistance to the carp and will allow you to strike at the slightest rod knocks.
Even strike at rod "knocks" and slight drop backs. We have found that early and late in the season carp may not run even with a well set up fixed lead system. By striking at these bumps and knock we have significantly increased our hooking percentage.
Without going into "fancy flavors", Cinnamon is a great cold water flavor sprinkle some into a can of sweetcorn the night before fishing. Upping the flavors of your baits in cold water conditions really helps in provoking some more confident takes. BANG garlic spray works as well (available at most Bass type tackle stores). Anyway these are some things that we do under tough conditions.
High Protein Pig feed makes an excellent groundbait. Add some flour to help bind it a bit better. This is much cheaper then making it from scratch with breadcrumbs etc. Cost: approx. $10.00 for 50lbs.
When fishing a fixed lead (bolt rig) and are getting a lot of false runs or "twitches" try shortening the hooklength to only 4-6 inches and increasing the weight of the lead, to at least 3oz. This will often hook these neutral feeders as there is little room for the carp to turn or ejects the hook before the heavy lead causes the hook point to penetrate. (Keep the hair length such that the bait just touches the bend in the hook).
When catching carp with the intent of releasing them: ALWAYS use a landing net. a) Either a European fine mesh specimen net, or b) at least a large RUBBER net as can be found at most good angling stores. Coarse "Salmon" nets remove slime and tear fins. This results in post release fungal infections, which result in death.
NEVER HOLD OR WEIGH A CARP (OR ANY OTHER FISH TO BE RELEASED) BY THE GILLS!!! GILLS ARE VERY SENSITIVE. ALMOST ANY HANDLING OF THEIR SURFACE WILL RESULT IN BLEEDING OR FUNGAL INFECTIONS LEADING TO DEATH. You may see In-Fisherman staff doing this but that does not make it right. My training and experience in Aquaculture and years on the job as shown that most invasive gill contact by which a fish is suspended by the gill cover leads to the death of the fish. Death may not be instantaneous but chances are that fatal damage will be done through this type of handling, resulting in delayed mortality.
ALWAYS USE SOME SORT OF UNHOOKING MAT. Extreme? I don't think so. There is no need to have a "Special " mat flown in from Europe for $150.00 if you don't have the means. A simple and effective replacement is a piece of "Blue Foamy", you know, the foam mats used for camping etc. Available almost anywhere for $10.00 or less. Simply cut a piece to the size you want and store it in a camping stuffsack ($5.00) of the right size. This will prevent large carp from banging itself on the ground or rolling in sand etc. which also removes vital protective slime. Also, they look much better for your photo album when not covered in dirt and grass.
It takes upwards of 20 years to grow a specimen size carp. Don't waste the energy spent in its growing to that size and the energy and time you spent in catching it. Showing respect for the fish in these simple ways increases your self-respect and confidence as an angler.

Tom Conner

(Tom is the Fly fishing editor of NACA)
There is no "best" rod size for carp and grass carp, but you better use a strong stick if you want to bring them in! I use an 8/9 wt. Rod with a fighting butt. In addition, I use a strong tippet, most North American carp are not line shy as they have never seen a fly fisher go after them.
If you don't have a reel with an adjustable drag, don't despair. Epoxy or otherwise attach a piece of leather to the bottom of the reel in such a way that you can press the free part of the leather against the rim of the reel as it moves on out. This way, when you palm the reel to stop the fish, you won't burn your hand in the process. Just press your palm on the leather instead and the leather will slow the reel.
One trick, especially if you are chumming the area to attract carp, is to dip your flies in the juice of the corn or other chum. This way you can create a "scent fly" to attract the fish. Carp use taste and smell to find food, especially in turbid water.
For you unbelievers, let it be known that fly fishing is the best presentation for grass carp, especially those in a pond from which all of the vegetation has been stripped, a common situation in a pond with too many grass carp per acre. In this situation grass carp will eat just about anything and will look for falling leaves, cut grass, etc. Take advantage of this fact and catch the fish.
Blind Cast Retrieves You have chummed to a nice table top sized area of still water and the carp are sweeping back and forth in and around the area. Your favorite bottom bouncing fly is tied on and you cast it to the chum area. Now what? How should you retrieve your fly so as to attract the attention of the carp and entice them to bite? The answer lies both in the behavior of the carp and the behavior of what the carp considers food. Typically a carp sucks in an assortment of stuff, keeping some of what seems edible and spitting out the rest. It may then grab whatever morsels it sees in the cloud that was expelled. You can be sure that it will quickly spit out your fly, even if it originally thought it was food. You can also be sure that you cannot set the hook in time just by sensing that the carp has taken in the fly. Occasionally, a la bolt rigs and hair rigs, it will hook itself, but mostly the fly is expelled and you don't even know it. Most flies that are likely to interest carp are those that resemble things like crayfish, leeches, and nymphs, especially in their movements. The case of the crayfish is instructive. Even though they do sometimes crawl along the bottom both forward and backward, when they sense intruders they move away backward in short spurts by expelling water. The movement is a rapid burst backward and somewhat upward following by a slower drop to the bottom. Carp can see the movement and "hear" the vibrations it makes and will quickly pounce on the crayfish as it settles. If you want to entice a carp, your fly should act just like the crayfish.
So we want a retrieve to accomplish two things -- entice the carp to bite and set the hook before the fly is spit out. I call retrieves that do that "just in case" retrieves. The first part of the retrieve imitates the motion of prey and the second part sets the hook just in case a carp has taken the fly in. Of course, most of the time a carp will not have taken your fly. But you will not have missed those occasions when it did take it. The simpler retrieve begins with a short, quick pull on the fly line of about and inch or two. This moves the fly in a crayfish-like way and attracts the carp to suck in the fly. Next is a similar short pull timed to set the hook while the fly is still in the carp's mouth. In other words, even though most of the time nothing has taken in your fly you assume it has and gently set the hook anyway. I like to slowly say "one potato" during the first pull ("one" for the pull and "potato" for letting the fly drop down). While you are saying "potato" take up any slack in your line in preparation for the second pull. After the second pull let the fly settle down again.
A second retrieve sounds more complicated, and it is somewhat, but it is more realistic and in the long run more likely to catch fish. For the first part, imagine your hand that holds the fly line is directly in line with your wrist. Now cock the hand up without moving the wrist up or down but sliding it forward a bit so as not to move the fly yet. In a sharp movement rotate your hand to below your wrist. Immediately take up the slack in your line and then give it a short, hook setting pull. The theory is the same as the first retrieve - set the hook just in case. But the fly movement is closer to the rapid acceleration of an actual crayfish. These two retrieves are designed to deal with your inability to see the carp take your fly even though the carp itself can see the fly. You can also make use of them when neither of you can see the fly. Recall that a fleeing crayfish makes a distinctive "sound" or vibration when it moves. If you attach a rattle to your daytime fly then these retrieves will mimic crayfish vibrations and the carp will find your fly even in darkness. So will bass and other fish but that is just part of the fun.

Chris Widram

(Chris guides fly fishing trips for carp on the Housatonic and Hudson Rivers. You can view his web page at: http://www.saltwaterflies.com/houssie.html. He also produces a selection of effective fly patterns for carp fishing; if interested you can e-mail him at: [email protected])
Tying Hair Rigs.
Being a fly fisher I quite naturally turned to fly tying techniques to construct hair rigs. It is fast, easy, and anyone can do it. Equipment: cheap fly tying vise ($15), spool of black tying thread, fly tying bobbin, and clear finger nail polish. Put the hook into the vise clamping the jaws at the bend of the hook. Start the thread at the eye of the hook by laying it along the hook and winding back over it. Trim the thread tag. Wind the thread to about the mid point of the hook in close wraps. Cut a piece of Spiderwire or similar line about 4 " long and fold it into a loop. Lay the loop on the top of the hook with the loop toward the bend and the ends toward the eye. Wind a couple of turns of thread around the line. Adjust the length of the loop to the length hair you want. Tie down the ends of the thread by winding all the way to the eye. Trim the ends flush. Put on a couple of more turns of thread. Tie off the thread with two half hitches and trim it flush. Coat windings with finger nail polish.
Fly rodders who like to chase carp can still enjoy some good angling, even in the colder months. Pick warm days, and focus on two areas: shallow flats and river channels. Some fish will move on to flats to feed when lake or river water temperatures reach the upper forties. These are spooky fish, but with some care anglers should be able to stalk them with some success. I have typically caught my last carp of the season in November, and the first carp in March. This year we are still catching fish as of December 3.
Some of the best winter action occurs when warm air temperatures bring carp to the surface to gulp warm air and feed on midges, which hatch prolifically during the warmer days of winter. You may need to look closely to notice the subtle rises that carp make at this time, but keep in mind that if you find the fish, there will probably be plenty of them. A floating "berry" fly, Griffith's gnat, or even an elk hair caddis can take fish at these times. With the above normal temperatures that the Northeast portion of the United States has enjoyed in the past several weeks, fly rodding for carp has been excellent.
Long casts and subtle, drag free presentations are very important for catching carp on dry flies at this time of year, so be prepared to work a little harder for winter carp. With some effort and a little luck, you may be rewarded by the sound of a screaming reel as a fat December carp peels fly line and backing off your reel.

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