Author Topic: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
ImmortalWounds_LC 950 posts
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Date Posted: 3/14 11:09pm Subject: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
As much as it kills me to post this, it has to be done..

I have been on an extended break to sort out some stuff irl. but I had planned on coming back in March.. When i logged into my account i noticed that my chest was whiped clean and my 2nd account Password was changed and i could not access it. Taken from my chest and some of my 1st accounts newb chars was numerous Majors, Tinked up armor, ect ect. but also an Xbow which was more valuable to me than anything in this game. (was inscribed by a IG friend who passed away)

The account (Meklaroth, a 140 something sword) was being sold on for monatary value by sitheris.. The orginal agreement between Misato(original owner),Sith, and myself was that the account was mine as long as you didnt sell it for money..

I trusted sith more than anyone in AC. just for the fact that he was my vassal for little over a year and we live in such close proximity to each other.. I did owe Sith 10 dollars which i remember sending him awhile back. He told Kristopher the reason he did it was because of the 10 dollars that i owed him.. Sith made 150 dollars off the account with most of my cherished items on it.

The account is sold now and I dont think there is much hope in getting some of my items back that he sold with the account. I believe he acted soley out of greed.. I know it doesnt matter that much because he doesnt play AC anymore.. but stealing is stealing and what he did was wrong..

Coming back was supposed to be this wonderful time for getting back in the game and testing everything out. Now knowing that i have to replace some items and loosing trust and respect for a friend doesnt make me want to come back, Loosing the Xbow is the worst thing that could happen to me..

Being stolen from by a trusted vassal is truly stabbing me in the back. He had nothing to loose by stealing. but his rep on the vault.

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Date Posted: 3/14 11:12pm Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
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MisatoX 15,739 posts
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Date Posted: 3/14 11:18pm Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
I'm good friends with IW through AC, and Sith through AC and I know him a little bit in RL, so this is tricky for me.

I gave Mek to Sith when I quit in October, under the agreement he could play it, just not sell it without talking to me about it first. He then got bored, and gave it to IW, which I told the same thing: he could play it, just don't sell it without discussing it with me first.

So today Sith reads my coming back to AC post and mentions he sold the account, without asking me or IW ahead of time. According to Sitheris, when he gave IW the account IW never changed the CC Info and charged his card for a couple month, without Sith really noticing. So IW agreed to Paypal him the money, it was his mistake. Sith says he never got the money. IW says he only mischarged Sith's card once, and he paypal'd him the money.

After hearing Sith's case I agreed with him. If someone was charging my card and not refunding it I would be pissed and yank the account too. But after hearing IW's side too, it seems Sith didn't even talk to him about it, just yanked it and sold it.

So either Sitheris was wronged, or he just saw this as a way to make a quick buck and took advantage of it. I originally bought to account over the summer, so since I gave it away to Sith for free originally I made him give me a cut in what he sold the account for. He transferred the cash to me no problem. It's still sitting in my account, not sure what to do with it or make of any of this.

I plan on talking to Sitheris tommorow about this. I don't want to condemn anyone just now, since both involved are my friends. I'm going to sleep in a few so if there's any questions PM me and I'll reply in the morning.

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ImmortalWounds_LC 950 posts
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Date Posted: 3/14 11:21pm Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
It was for only one month. and i have the convo of him confirming it on my other computer i believe. :-(

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Phases_OgMaxim 6,077 posts
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Date Posted: 3/14 11:26pm Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
You still got your paypal emailed reciept? I hope so, that might would help the situation a bit..

Sorry for the loss of everything, especially the xbow. I know what that can mean to someone.

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theora 1,254 posts
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Date Posted: 3/14 11:50pm Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
m00.... shocked.gif

well this could get occward for sith if he comes back, not that i would treat him any differently hes still a friend to me, but i mean i probably won't trust him with my account info...
not like i trust anyone as is, cause j00 are all oot to get me!

remember IW i gots lotsa items, PP armor and all, if j00 need just drop me a PM/IM on MSN, and provided i'm not *away* i'll do me best to help wink.gif

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Date Posted: 3/14 11:53pm Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)





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Wounder_Bread 223 posts
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Date Posted: 3/14 11:54pm Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
take a lesson fomr tihs, even the closest of friends can be your worst enemy. altho, it is just a game
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ImmortalWounds_LC 950 posts
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Date Posted: 12:11am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
I understand that. Now all my info is changed no one knows anythign now. and it will most likely remain that way.

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Dudess 5,579 posts
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Date Posted: 12:17am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
Just to clarify.. this is the ORIGINAL sith, right? (as stated in the title), not the one who plays him now?

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Dumfist 8,613 posts
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Date Posted: 12:26am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
He was wrong for taking your items, IW.

He was wrong for selling an account that misato truly owned.

from what I understand, they will be working that out somewhat.

the only things that were truly yours were the items, which he shouldn't have taken. misato is the only one who has the right to be upset about the account being sold tho.

I've been 'given' accounts by friends only to have them yanked back. I had to converse with the new idiot playing the account to get my stuff, and I didn't even get it all, though it wasn't much. (plats and loot, and one pair of major coord tassets) Maybe you can talk to the new owner about the xbow, and if he's a cool guy cool, he will be able to work out you getting it back. but beware, he will probably trade it to you, not just give it plain.gif

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Phreaker_LC 5,040 posts
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Date Posted: 12:29am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
IW i talked to your patron about this... and how to deal with it via turbine. once again i will try to help you replace anything that was lost

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-Nacht- 1,182 posts
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Date Posted: 12:46am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
If you know him IRL and where he lives...

what are you waiting for?
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Zarath_al-Qren 608 posts
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Date Posted: 1:45am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
"If you know him IRL and where he lives...

what are you waiting for? "

So you mean to say that one set of pixels is worth some time in prison eh?
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-Xanthia- 529 posts
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Date Posted: 1:53am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
Yah, wtf would want to hurt someone irl over a game?



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Fremick 963 posts
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Date Posted: 2:23am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
I trusted who I thougt was a good friend cause I knew him for couple years with Razorburns info.. Was a bad mistake. Next thing I new the info was changed and the account was sold.. Thank god the person who bought the account was kind enough to return it to me.


Can't trust anyone these days eh?

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Fremick 963 posts
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Date Posted: 2:23am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
I trusted who I thougt was a good friend cause I knew him for couple years with Razorburns info.. Was a bad mistake. Next thing I new the info was changed and the account was sold.. Thank god the person who bought the account was kind enough to return it to me.


Can't trust anyone these days eh?

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ekinria 151 posts
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Date Posted: 4:56am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
Sorry to read that, i am "new" Sith (Since 2 years BTW) if i can help you, let me know ... really, if yu need something just give me a tell ...


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Date Posted: 5:00am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
Dumfist- I understand that. I am not as upset about the actual meklaroth account just for the reason that it was given to me. but he violated the agreement between misato and that is between those two.

I am upset that he logged into MY account and stole MY items from my chest and from my other characters, thats where he did more wrong then yanking the account. going out of his way to steal my items is surely out of greed. I trusted him with my info yeah. because he was my vassal for little over a year and i thought he could be trusted. tbe xbow is irreplacable unfortunaltey. im trying to get the contact info for the winner so i can see about trading it.

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Date Posted: 5:13am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
Nothing disturbs me more than when people use the "pixel" referance. As if they have any idea of what they are talking about. Im sure turbine would be pretty ticked off knowing thats all you refer to when denoting the characters of thier game, you have any idea as to how many endless hours of scripting go along with these "pixels"? You take it for granted and then just shoot it down with referring to it in such a degrading manor.

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Date Posted: 5:17am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
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Screw me over and I'll screw you over more than you can even fathom.

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Date Posted: 5:30am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
owned =/ revenge is a dish best served cold i suppose, but 2 wrongs dont make a right.

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this just got interesting. ^
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Date Posted: 6:25am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith) - Date Edited: 6:34am (1 edits total) Edited By: sui101
Ok, I'm under the impression that even though -Sitheris- didn't have permission to sell the account, all's well on that since Misato did get her portion from the account. Please tell me if that's correct. The main thing I'm stuck on now is, -Sitheris- logged onto another of IW's accounts (which was not Misato's account) and took items from the characters and chest. Is that right? Also, is there any proof that IW did indeed pay -Sitheris- back for the time his CC was still being billed for the account IW was then playing?

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LoL, I should just learn not to attempt caring about incidents involving account trades, swaps, sales, and multiple owners silly.gif

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Date Posted: 6:27am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
Sitheris had access to his chest i believe.

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Date Posted: 7:05am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith) - Date Edited: 7:10am (2 edits total) Edited By: MisatoX
If you know him IRL and where he lives...

what are you waiting for?


I'd beat him up but he's way bigger them me! (j/k) silly.gif

Ok, I'm under the impression that even though -Sitheris- didn't have permission to sell the account, all's well on that since Misato did get her portion from the account. Please tell me if that's correct.

I got some money, but I'm still mad about him breaking our agreement a bit. The account is gone now, I might as well salvage what I can from the situation. If he would have asked me beforehand I would have said no, since I don't believe he has any right to make a profit off the account, seeing as he wasn't the one playing it. I bought it, got all the max tinked stuff, levels and quest items on it. He only played it for a little bit.

From the looks of it IW owed him $10 and for some reason he didn't get it. But instead of asking IW where his money was he just yanked the account. I would have rather he talked to him about it first. Also, even if he did just yank it, he should have only taken the account and not IW's stuff.

Sitheris had access to his chest i believe.

He had access to both IW's accounts.

Also, is there any proof that IW did indeed pay -Sitheris- back for the time his CC was still being billed for the account IW was then playing?

IW is lacking a Paypal account or a credit card. So he used his friends to send the money. He's gonna look through the records today if he can talk to his friend.

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BishopCoop 790 posts
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Date Posted: 7:36am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
Please stop referring to this loser as Sitheris...the real Sitheris, being the one that owns the account, is one of best people I've every met and would not have anything to do with what this POS thief 'Misfit' has done.

Again, please stop using the name Sitheris when talking about this loser...the real Sith doesn't deserve to be associated with the reputation of this scum.

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Date Posted: 7:40am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith) - Date Edited: 7:47am (1 edits total) Edited By: -Sitheris-
I got some money, but I'm still mad about him breaking our agreement a bit. The account is gone now, I might as well salvage what I can from the situation. If he would have asked me beforehand I would have said no, since I don't believe he has any right to make a profit off the account, seeing as he wasn't the one playing it. I bought it, got all the max tinked stuff, levels and quest items on it. He only played it for a little bit.

If you wouldn't have had me blocked for a whole month ...

From the looks of it IW owed him $10 and for some reason he didn't get it. But instead of asking IW where his money was he just yanked the account. I would have rather he talked to him about it first. Also, even if he did just yank it, he should have only taken the account and not IW's stuff.

I still have not received any form of payback to date. I asked IW on numerous occasions when he was going to pay me back and he was all talk but no action.

Sitheris had access to his chest i believe.

I had access to IW's main account as well. IW, consider yourself lucky that I didn't do anything to your main account. The thought had crossed my mind but I didn't think such a drastic retalliation would be appropriate.


Also, is there any proof that IW did indeed pay -Sitheris- back for the time his CC was still being billed for the account IW was then playing?

I can go into my Paypal history and look 60 days back and find no transaction even relating to this. IW claimed he would send me a check since he doesn't have Paypal, but I haven't seen that either.

This isn't really about the money at all, $10 is pocket change. The fact is that he played on my CC when I specifically told him not to. Usually, when someone makes a point loud and clear, you listen to them. I didn't realize he was doing this until a month after I gave him the account. He could've just as well ripped me off for many more months after that.

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Date Posted: 7:50am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
Man..you're a real piece of work. What makes you think that jive is going to fly here? "He was coat tailing my CC!!!" BS...we all know how to click the little button that say, "Don't keep my CC info"

My guess is that you're a little twerp that's doing the best you can to drag people into your miserable existance with you. My estimated count is that you stole $150 dollars cash, a couple hundred more in items, you're attempting to tarnish the reputation of a person who's name is Sitheris IG by speaking as him on the boards.

The one thing I take comfort in is the high probability that your wacked out sense of justice will soon catch up with you, and you will be enjoying your sunsets trough the bars of your prision cell window.

Good day,

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MisatoX 15,739 posts
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Date Posted: 7:53am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
If you wouldn't have had me blocked for a whole month ...

Well you know that was a computer mistake. You also know there's other ways of getting ahold of me, such as PMing me on these boards. You didn't though.

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Date Posted: 7:54am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith) - Date Edited: 7:55am (1 edits total) Edited By: -Sitheris-
As far as I'm concerned, you can go to hell BC. This doesn't even concern you, so please refrain from adding your "I'm so better than you" attitude.

All I can say is that I have my reasons, and nobody else will completely understand them except me.

Edit: Misato, that was sarcasm silly.gif

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Date Posted: 7:59am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
Man..you're a real piece of work. What makes you think that jive is going to fly here? "He was coat tailing my CC!!!" BS...we all know how to click the little button that say, "Don't keep my CC info"

Yeah, but the fact remains that the other party (IW) should have taken the responsibility for the payment of the account. Sitheris didn't 'coat tail' Misato's credit card, why did IW?

My guess is that you're a little twerp that's doing the best you can to drag people into your miserable existance with you.

Uhh, right. Personal attacks aren't allowed on VNBoards.

My estimated count is that you stole $150 dollars cash, a couple hundred more in items

Then you need to relearn addition and reading comprehension. the account was sold for 150 with the items on it. [/i]

you're attempting to tarnish the reputation of a person who's name is Sitheris IG by speaking as him on the boards.

This is the ORIGINAL Sitheris. Your good buddy, the one who plays sitheris now, bought his account. This person made the character.

The one thing I take comfort in is the high probability that your wacked out sense of justice will soon catch up with you, and you will be enjoying your sunsets trough the bars of your prision cell window.

Why would something to do with a game account EVER imply that someone had criminal intentions in real life? Come on, seriously. Try and use that thing between your ears before spouting off.

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Shadow_Ripper 1,170 posts
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Date Posted: 8:01am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
I have sold my account 1 year ago (original Shadow Ripper) and i have heard it passed 3-4 new owners since then ... who knows ...

a RL friend of mine (that i know him years before AC) has 4 accounts and i have access to all of them, but i play only 1 of them.

RL friendship worths sharing an account.

any other situation does not.

IG friends that have never met can stay IG friends without sharing pws.

Gekk only had known my pw for use in a chain remake (2 years ago cause i could not log in at the time)and and after that pw has changed




conclusion : every time(well often enough) some1 trusts some1 with a pw we got a drama ... why dont u people just stop givings ur "pixels" info away ?

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Date Posted: 8:01am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
After reading through each person's posts, my own personal opinion is that you stole from both Misato and IW.

Through your own words, you knew when he got the account that your CC info was on it, you could have removed it then. You also knew the account info after he started playing, so you could have removed it while in his possession. Being pissed about the $10 does not make you a thief though.

Taking an account that doesn't belong to you and selling it makes you a thief. Taking items from a person without their permission for sale, makes you a thief. I expected better replies from you duder plain.gif

I'd add you to my list if there were a name or something to put on it (I will however, add your vnboard name).

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ImmortalWounds_LC 950 posts
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Date Posted: 8:03am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
Thats messed up in the head, im going by and checking the records today after class, but if not you could have mentioned that it didnt go through man. instead u sold an account, whiped my chest clean along with other items

IF it didnt go through, I am sorry, but there is no way in hell im sending any money your way now, you made a nice hefty profit on the account.

Stop beating around the bush, your greedy and a theif. hands down..

Didnt you do this to someone before?

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BishopCoop 790 posts
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Date Posted: 8:04am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
The Hell it doesn't concern me...First, less than a week ago you attacked the real Sitheris, who is a great friend and clansmen of mine. Second, you're a rotten thief and scoundrel who gets off by screwing people in a game I play. So choke it down bad boy, I'm here to stay.

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Date Posted: 8:10am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
Ep O.o

Someone wake me up and fill me in when its over prz X.x

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ImmortalWounds_LC 950 posts
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Date Posted: 8:21am Subject: RE: New Theif: -Sitheris- (Old sith)
im off to class ill post in 20.

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