NORTHERN NEW YORK POULTRY FANCIERS
MARCH 2004 QUARTER NEWSLETTER

 

IMPORTANT DATES:

Sunday, May 2, 2004 - NNY Poultry Fanciers Annual Swap Meet at the Madrid Community Center. The 4-H Group will work the Food Concession stand for us again this year. The Club will provide the meat, rolls, beverages, salads and eating utensils.

 

On Saturday, May 1st some of the Club members will be making salads and baked beans at the Madrid Library Kitchen for the Swap Meet Food Concession the next day. Anyone who would like to help is welcome to come. We'll be starting at 4 p.m.

 

Sunday, September 19, 2004 - NNY Poultry Fanciers Annual Show will be at the Waddington Arena. Anyone wanting to put a Special in for our Fall Show or for information on Specials, Show book or the Show, call Gary Wells at 315-322-8993 or Floyd Rood at 315-379-9498.

 

Words of Wisdom from our President. Melvina Reid

 

The Setting Hen

Last Spring I wrote an article on incubation. It was more or less a refresher course for those who seldom used an incubator or for someone new to the game. Since then I have had a few questions about "natural incubation".

 

When speaking to novices, old or young, be explicit. One young lady told me her hen hatched two eggs after having sat on them for thirty days. - It seems that this is what happened. She asked an experienced chicken man what she could do to induce her hen to set. He replied "leave the eggs in the nest and she might get broody." I do this sometimes. Many times after a hen sees three or four eggs in the nest, she'll get the maternal instinct. Three or four eggs - not thirty deposited by several hens. Yes - thirty eggs. A picture passes by me. A smallish hen perched upon a high mound of eggs. The hen then had a cage slipped over her. At twenty one days there was nothing. A few days later the nest began to smell a little. At thirty days two chicks enter this world. Either the hen had brought back an egg or two to the nest that had been at the outer edge or she had laid a couple of eggs after she had been caged.

 

Thirty eggs! Please don't laugh. If you find a hen bristling on the nest and you'd like the experience of a hen with chicks, go ahead, set her. It's kinda fun. Where the nest is located is of importance.

 

1) The hen should be able to have room to get off the nest to eat, drink and relieve herself. And if possible to take a hurried dust bath.


2) She should be alone. No rooster in the maternity ward. No other hens to deposit more eggs in the nest.

 

3) The spot should be quiet. No roaring motors. No frantically barking dog. No screeching kids.

 

4) A cool place. A hen can reach a temperature of 104 degrees when broody. She doesn't need a warm sunny place. Excess heat may drive her from the nest or cause the eggs to rot. A hen could die.

 

To prepare a nest for her - make sure there is enough material under the eggs to keep them from lying on the bare floor. Build the sides up slightly. Most hens like a dark comer. One of mine likes to be facing the light.

 

If hens are treated periodically for mites, your setter will most likely be free of these. If you set an infested hen she'll either leave the nest too early or she'll pass the mites on to the chicks.

 

It is also important that the eggs have good shell structure. Thin shelled eggs may break in the nest. This will soil the eggs and cause a sticky mess on the hen. The remaining eggs will probably rot. The hen may be attacked by flies and maggots will form.

 

At all times do the best you can to protect your setter from predators. Coons are the worst. If you think coons "are the cutest things'' don’t keep chickens. If you think --­chickens are cuter - keep guns, pitchforks, fierce dogs, clubs, high powered electric fences spaced at two inches, four inches, six inches, one foot, two feet and probably three feet above the ground and around trees. You put the fence around trees, because if you don't - the coon climbs the tree," claws his way along a limb, drops down on your coop roof and pries it open and gorges on chickens and eggs. (This might sound just a little exaggerated.)

 

Foxes can be bad news. They dig holes and go under fences and they can climb to a small extent. A lot is blamed on coy dogs where there are no coy dogs.

 

It's probably my imagination, but I always think that the chicks hatched by the hen are the healthiest, the smartest and the most attractive.

 

Questions and Answers from Melvina Reid. President

 

Q. Are there hens that never lay?

A. Yes - but this is unusual. Even old, old hens will lay a few eggs in the spring. I suppose a time comes when they are just too old to produce. If a young hen is not laying in May, she probably never will. Reproduction disorders or malformities may be the cause. Many hens are perfectly healthy but will only lay a very few eggs in April and May and maybe again in October. If a pullet is a poor layer, she won't get any better. I have owned some birds that I couldn't get a chick from due to erratic laying patterns.

 

Q. I hear a lot about culling baby chicks from day one on. Are you in agreement with this?

A. If any chicks are deformed they should be culled I do not cull for color until the birds have their growth. If a person can determine the sex at this time, some feel they can cut down the number of males. I personally do not feel that killing a chick at this time is justifiable. If you raise the cockerel, especially large birds or bantams of the larger breeds, and dress them out at a suitable size, they should be acceptable for the table.

 

Q. I have just started out with bantams. A friend used to have bantams and he is trying to talk me away from the hobby. He says it is very expensive. Is it?

A. 1) It can be. It needn't be. If you haven't had chickens before, start easy. Don't go out and buy some high priced, show ready birds. Not until you practice a little. Buy some nice, well cared for birds that are good representatives of their breed. Be careful. Shop around. Ask questions. Don't overpay.

 

2) Don't waste feed. Feed the birds what they'll clean up in a reasonable time. Find feeders that are hard for the birds to scratch the feed out of. Give them kitchen scraps and things from the garden.

 

3) Expense is a matter of opinion. Some kids wanted a few bantams. Their mother was very much against this because grain cost $8 a bag and bantams would not be very productive. On a leash she had a large black Newfoundland. I took a great interest in the dog. "Is it a female?" I asked. "Oh yes," she replied, "she's our baby." "Are you planning on raising puppies?" (I tried to sound eager). "Oh, my no, she's spayed" was the response. I couldn't resist - "No production - and how long does an $8 bag of food last her?" I asked. No the kids didn't get the bantams. Mother was really mad!

Yes, the hobby will cost you some money. You'll get a few eggs and a little meat for the table. You may sell a few birds or hatching eggs. A lot of hobbies take money. Hunting. Boating. Bowling. Camping. Eating. If grain is too expensive, forget it. You could try pressing flowers or gluing puzzles together. That's cheap.

 

From our Vice President Floyd Rood.

Well, it looks like spring has finally come. Starting to see a few robins in the area seems good. Just in the past couple of weeks my turkey has started to lay that is always a sure sign of spring.

 

Hope everyone will make an effort to attend our Swap Meet on May 2nd at the Madrid Community Center. The Club needs your support. Anyone who attends please try to find a few items for our Raffle Table. People have told me that our Raffle Table is one of the best.


Hope everyone has been having good luck with their hatchings. My birds have been weird. The birds have not laid real well this spring; in fact I have not set a modern game egg yet. They laid real well up until about January, but nothing since. Hope no one else is having the same trouble. Hope to see you at our Swap Meet.

 

NEWS

One of our members, Lloyd (Max) Robertson, 75, of Chase Mills, NY past away on December 22, 2003. Grandfather of Derek Raymo and great Grandfather of Nicole, Shawn and Teaya current members of our Club. Max was a man that had a big love of animals large and small. He loved coming to the swap meets and show. He will be greatly missed. Derek Raymo and Family

 

A local dealer, Cougler's Feed in Heuvelton, has started carrying the Purina Feed line. You can use your coupons from the Poultry press at Cougler's Feed.

 

Anyone who has plans for showing or selling birds needs to have them blood tested. This service is free. Contact John Martin to have your birds tested. John's address is:

John Martin

New York State Dept of Agriculture & Markets

518-457-3458

[email protected]

 

WANTED:

 

Pure breed Rhode Island Rooster Standard, call Derek Raymo, Norfolk, NY at­

315-769-1397.

 

FOR SALE:

Old English Game Bantams: One trio of Red Pyle, One trio of Black, One pair of Black Breasted Red, One Pair of Spangles. Call Gary Wells, Madrid, NY at 315-322-8993.

 

Old English Game Bantams and Modern Game Bantams: Modern Games in Brown Red ­4 Fawn Red pullets, Old English in Spangle-Columbian-Black- White-Silver Quill-B.B. Red. Also Belgium d'andvers in Black and Self Blue. Call Paul Matthews, Morley, NY at 315-386-4733.

 

This year we are offering Blacks, Fawn Silver Duckwing, BB Reds, Fawn Reds & Chocolate Old English Game Bantams. Prices are as follows $15.00 per dozen for what lays the day of shipping. These prices include shipping, handling and box fee. Contact Derek Raymo, Norfolk, NY at 315-769-1397.

 

 


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